Nobody will pay the Cubs a fortune for 2 years of Bryant. They were a whopping 2 games below .500. If the Braves are truly making Clev available, the Braves need to be all over him. I have no problem with playing Riley. He will be 31 in the following April of his first season after opt out. Braves infielder Johan Valentin Camargo was born Dec. 13, 1993 in Panama City, Panama. My preference there, if we’re rolling with what we got… Assuming Riley does well in ST, give him the 3B start and have Snit actually utilize Camargo as a super utility regularly as was intended last year. Sea would LOVE to trade Seager…. 11. Left handed hitting heavy???? They did ask for Waters, who, like Pache, can play all 3 OF positions. It kinda sucks for the Braves because soon they will have the log jam with Pache and Waters coming up which makes even more difficult to decide how to improve better on the short term in the outfield unless Pache or Waters gets moved to Cleveland in the deal. Using your logic, Bryce Harper is so bad (just because he plays on the Phillies) that he doesn’t even deserve a roster spot as a band aid player on a contending team. What the same way your overvaluing the Braves “PROSPECTS”? Bryant and Arenado would cost considerable prospects. How the NL East is at now. If Braves did trade for Bryant it would be less for what Cubs current asking price is- The Braves basically made trades to turn their terrible bullpen into the best bullpen in baseball last season and then kept all the pitchers they traded for while also signing the best free agent reliever in baseball (Will Smith) to be the cherry on top. plenty of young players struggle in their first exposure to MLB pitching. But if he can make that adjustment, I think he’ll be fine. That’s never gonna happen. Nobody is going to give him $200 million in his 30’s, Unless he pulls a Bumgarner, but even then he will command $150-$`180 million minimum and I just don’t see the Dodgers or anyone else giving that to a 31 year old. Todd Frazier for a year if you don’t sign Donaldson had would year just cost money I Skip to main content Skip to ... 3rd: McNeil grounded out to first, Wheeler to second, Rosario to third. Feels like Cleveland might not be able to turn that away. Realmuto C. 0-2: 2: 2: 0: 0: 0: 1: 11.276.328.494: Today's at BatsFull Player Profile. Phillies….91 wins According to Spotrac – which basically covers contracts – Nolan Arenado can opt out after the 2021 season. Marlins probably be willing to deal him. Not even close. Third base is one of the deepest positions in baseball. He’s even said his self he learned a lot with the Dodgers and doesn’t operate the same way anymore… And if you would have paid attention, it definitely has shown in his work with Atlanta. We saw that with NY acquiring EE. I’m sure Donaldson is everyone’s preferred choice, but I could easily see a market for Seager heating up once he’s off the board. At the end of the 2021 season, he’ll be 30 years old (turns 31 on April 16, 2022). Might work, but can’t ignore last two years of Acuna in lead off spot. Castellanos is more 6 years younger than Donaldson. I do follow his work, and yes he has done a great job in ATL so far. I agree with all this. If I were the Twins I would be focused on Castro and trying to get a SP. 1-4: 4: 0: 1: 1: 0: 1: 13.263.346.598: Today's at BatsFull … Donaldson signed a one-year deal with the Braves as a free agent in the offseason. Or bacon and ham? Simmons is a FA after next season. Getting both Lindor and Clevinger would destroy the farm system. Only contenders are gonna sign a guy like him anyway due to his age. If they both are, float them around and get their bat in. I think Riley is gonna be a fantastic player at some point given the glove ability at 3B, arm and power. ATLANTA, GA - APRIL 13: Josh Donaldson #20 of the Atlanta Braves runs bases during his seventh inning home run against the New York Mets at SunTrust Park on April 13, 2019 in Atlanta, Georgia. ATLANTA, GA OCTOBER 09: Atlanta Braves third baseman Josh Donaldson (20) hits a home run during the National League Division Series game 5 between the St. Louis Cardinals and the Atlanta Braves on October 9th, 2019 at SunTrust Park in Atlanta, GA. (Photo by Rich von Biberstein/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images) MLB Qualifying Offer decrease proves MLBPA … It's the third-straight game he's been unable to play dealing with tightness in … They are an incredibly talented team, and their rotation is insane. On a separate note, I do believe Arenado would be option #2 ahead of Bryant. Bryant would be a bridge to Riley. I think he’ll hit very near his home numbers with another team. My point is that a guy that would have been the best position player on the entire Phillies roster less than 2 years ago (the end of 2018) should at least be considered as someone that can be a band aid until Riley figures out how to hit the slider so he can make his 12 homer a month NLB record become a reality. When the Braves were eliminated from the postseason Wednesday night, it might’ve concluded Donaldson’s tenure with the team. He already has a ton of money, and He Probably Wants A RING. Either Braves trade for Arenado with understanding that it’s 2 years or so to bridge to Riley or they have some long term arrangement where Braves find a way to reduce overall cost. Markakis, LF Clueless. .265/.323/..476 on the road. BOOM!! His splits make it pretty clear you don’t want him if you’re not the Rockies. .324/.380/.615 at home. It’s always been kinda known that Camargo struggles against righties, I’m not just referencing last year. 6. O. Albies 2B. Everyone was screaming about Phillie last year, yet I was more concerned with the Nats than I ever was with PHI from day one and that remains to this day. That’s $131.5 Million. He would require a very significant haul. The article says the opt out is in 5 years. The Nationals had someone even better than Donaldson and they squandered many years before finally achieving success in the world series. If he was playing every day it’s difficult to say what would happen but the data point you should look at is 2018 since it’s the closest match. The Arenado rumor doesn’t make sense to me unless there is some creative talk going on between Braves/Rocks/Arenado. Drafted as a shortstop, he played some outfield and third base in the minors, and initially came up with the Baby Braves in 2005 as a left fielder. Also, don’t forget… Camargo is excellent defensively at 3B, but so is Riley, and they both have canon arms. We're asking for your help to make it through the offseason and ensure that we're here to cover baseball in the 2021 season and beyond. Cleveland would say no to your offer Drew. Of course if you can negotiate an option for year 4, great, but if not, just do it. I think their game one starter in the playoffs has been officially subtracted as well. Fried Yesterday, our own Steve Adams explored in detail the many obstacles impeding a potential Atlanta-Arenado connection. The Braves bullpen is fine. 4. Maybe make a trade with Seattle Seager to cover 3b for a couple years till they figure that position out and get Haniger for good control. Us Braves fans should not be discounting Washington like this. All this is just noise. AA laughs hysterically than hangs up the phone! Really it had the Swanson illness of chasing that outside junk. For comparison, the Shredder's 2019 third basemen list is: 1) Jose Ramirez 2) Justin Turner 3) Nolan Arenado 4) Anthony Rendon 5) Alex Bregman 6) Matt Carpenter 7) Matt Chapman 8) Kristopher Bryant 9) Josh Donaldson 10) Eugenio Suarez. No it wouldn’t! The Rangers need to go get Donaldson right now, enough with trying to pry Arenado from the Rockies cause’ it ain’t happening. That’s like saying Starling Marte shouldn’t even be in Major League Baseball because he plays for the Pirates and the Pirates suck. Acuna is 22. 7th: Hernández grounded out to second. It only maxes out if he’s performing well, which would obviously be a good thing. I think only Nola scored higher amongst Phillies player and he missed close to 80% of games since he was a starting pitcher. Especially when that player is only expected to serve in a supportive band-aid role. Move people around depending who you acquire. Colin Pache Or Drew Waters for Ke’Bryan Hayes. If you give Donaldson a real high buyout in the 4th year you are kind of defeating the purpose, I haven’t heard what the Cubs are seeking for Bryant but his value seems hard to gauge. 5th: Acuña Jr. lined out to left. On a conservative calculation at least $50-60m. Josh Donaldson. Read up and learn about a team, before you spout off. They need to make a splash and will be the only team offering 4 years at a rate he can live with. The Braves should be interested in Kyle Seager as well.. by Retrosheet. Get a summary of the Philadelphia Phillies vs. Atlanta Braves baseball game. Get neither, they probably won’t make the playoffs. 10. There’s nothing more for Riley to gain at the minor league level, as he’s proved. Travis Shaw – Went over him in the top 20 2nd basemen for 2019 fantasy baseball. Think Staton off the marlins books and the return the marlins got from the Yankees. Anyway; Swanson would be the Rockies SS in this scenario. As far as potential trade partners for the Rockies superstar go, few clubs could match up with the Braves in terms of young prospect capital. 7. I will be totally stunned if they trade Clevinger and they are not trading Ramirez. Ideally, go after Clevinger. I loje that idea and it may be what AAhas up his sleeve, I don’t think the Rockies would want Dansby If Braves have given up on Riley, their best 3b prospect, they might as well sign Donaldson to 4 yrs and include Riley in a trade for someone else, like a pitcher. Between this and watching paint dry, your days must be action packed. There is going to be a huge over pay for Lindor that just seems ill advised. Our offense last year was scary and our biggest asset, but once you remove Donaldsons production the lineup suddenly gets very thin… Especially if Riley or Camargo don’t rebound to their previous levels and if Markakis/Duvall show more regression… All of which is very likely. Huge overpay? Position: Third Baseman Bats: Right • Throws: Right 6-1, 210lb (185cm, 95kg) . Ramirez is controlled for 4 years on a very team friendly deal. 60 in this year’s MLB Draft by not … No AA would go get an Ozuna type player to put in the OF and platoon Riley/Camargo at 3B and platoon Markakis/Duvall at the other corner OF spot and you still have ender also I like that way better than overpaying with prospects. If JD passes on 4 years from the Braves now it is time to move on, maybe get another big bat in the OF and let Camargo and Riley platoon. Teams that want to win aren’t using the Phillies as their benchmark. Bote from the Cubs. Right, it’s a common problem that most young players have to fix to be successful. Waters is expendable with Pache and I’m not as high on wright. Get lindor Bryant correra arrenado merrifield or resign Donaldson. Lefties that throw 150+ innings per year, coming off a +3.0War don’t grow on trees. - Page 3 By Dylan A. I don’t believe the Indians are shopping Clevinger. He previously played for the San Francisco Giants and Boston Red Sox.He stands 5 feet 11 inches (1.80 m) tall, and weighs 300 pounds (140 kg). and Pache bats right. Riley will probably figure it out and his talent is far to great to give up on. Trade whatever they require for him and maybe Lindor. and play-by-play data provided by Sports Info Solutions. News out today is Braves have offered Donaldson 4 yrs, and he is waiting for a bigger offer. I wouldn’t invest a ton of money in him unless he was willing to sign a two year contract. I am sure the best position player on their entire roster would at least be good enough to help a better team win a championship. He got off to a torrid start and then hit his wall and didn’t have a chance to make typical adjustments. I must know this also on top of the Hayes. The Atlanta Braves passed up on another feel-good hometown story Monday at pick No. He could also just as likely be the missing piece for Atlanta’s title run. . Yeah right. The Braves third baseman turns 23 on Thursday. If they both crap out, well, then you just had bad luck. Freeman, 1B Arenado is substantially better than Rendon. Atlanta Braves leaderboards for 2019 third basemen with dashboard — Shortstop Dansby Swanson, with the Braves … Possibly 1 of those 4 for 1-2 yrs of Bryant except Riley. I have to be open and honest and I don’t know what yi think. — Mark Bowman (@mlbbowman) April 13, 2020. I’d be willing to bet money if he went to ATL, he’d be a .290 hitter, with a high obp, and drive in 100+ with continued amazing defense. Get a summary of the New York Mets vs. Atlanta Braves baseball game. It’s not that the Rockies are serious, it’s that Arenado has a no-trade clause. By Connor Byrne | January 14, 2020 at 10:05pm CDT. Braves…..90 wins Gives a power bat at 3rd to back up FF in Ramirez. This also … As for your idea, I will do it. We’ve got such value in the Acuna and Albies contracts that we should be willing to take reasonable chances like this in order to win while the window is open. That’s the part of your post that is spot on. There isn’t a lot of surplus value attached to Arenado especially with the opt out. He was coming off an injury last season and wasn’t going to be able to net a large contract. Bryant and Quintana? He had a bad season last year which might be due in part to losing his everyday role to Donaldson, but he finished the season strong. I was poking fun at the OP, who couldn’t get Pache’s name right. Even Matthew Boyd (DET) would probably bring a better bang for the buck in terms of what he would bring compared to the prospects we would trade away. The last 49 games of 2017 and the first 110 of 2018. See who caves 1st. But theoretically that high contract might be worth a lot to the Rockies simply getting it off their books. Soroka Even in limited games, all it takes is a couple of bad ones to make it look like a bad season. Donaldson, often positioned as being a bit “old” for a premium free-agent, would only be 37 at the end of his reportedly sought-after four-year deal. No way should they hold on to both. Marlins….50 wins. How you going to pay ALL those young players? I think Braves have resisted a 4 yr deal for Donaldson because they wish to move Riley to 3b when Donaldson is gone (after 3 yrs presumably), assuming Riley progresses. Because he’s a professional. I think y’all are blowing the road/home splits out of proportion. He’s had 1 injury plagued yr and people think he can’t stay healthy, total stupidity. Riley was really bad vs RH pitchers….problem with outside slider. It seems like you watch baseball but the things you’re saying are so off that I’m not sure you understand baseball. Major League and Minor League Baseball data provided by Major League Baseball. Cubs didn’t even ask for Pache. Unlike the Braves’ other homegrown second basemen, Kelly Johnson was actually taken with a high pick, 38th overall in the first round of the 2000 draft. The Braves won their sixth consecutive division title, however, the 2000 season would mark the first time since 1990 that the Braves did not appear in the National League Championship Series in a non-strike season. Two players with full control that can help in 2020 along with getting the contract off the books is a fair deal imo. Home; Complete Game Marucci Braves (13u) (cs20) OVERVIEW; TeamOverview; TeamRoster; TeamStandings; TeamSchedule; Last Game Results Previous Game Results. Say Clevinger and Ramirez for Waters or Pache, Wright, Bryce Wilson, Contreras, Riley and a low level to even it. Your Not- He would be under contract through the 2022 season. I think he has a good year in him. The rotation is still my priority. Most people who don’t literally have ATL in their user name would probably disagree with your assessments. Austin Riley was the 33 rd overall prospect and the fourth-best third base prospect on FanGraphs before the 2019 season. More realistic as well. L/L: 6' 4" 190: 01/18/1994: Ian Anderson 36. That injury seemed odd to me as well. He’s a 3fWAR player. Any person halfway paying attention knows Arenado is very unlikely to go to ATL. I don’t know. I like the Braves compared to a lot of teams. Skip to main content Skip to navigation < > Menu ESPN ... 3rd: Acuña Jr. singled to right, Swanson to third. But a lot of other things have to happen first: Donaldson signing, Bryant trade, Seager trade. The Braves are unlikely to “aggressively” pursue a Nolan Arenado trade as long as incumbent starter Josh Donaldson remains on the market, Jon Morosi of MLB Network reported on Saturday citing unnamed sources (link).